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The general time frame for this sprint will be late-September or October. The location will be either in Asia (likely Tokyo, Japan) or Western Europe. The exact dates and location have not been picked yet. The sprint will be held '''October 12-14, 2018''' at '''Google Stockholm''' in Sweden.
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=== Possible Location ===
The most recent sprint was smaller than usual at 15 attendees; ones before that were upwards of 30 attendees. It has not been confirmed that Google Tokyo can host this event yet, or on which days the location is available.
||Location ||Host ||Sept 14-16 ||Sept 21-23 ||Sept 28-30 ||Oct 5-7 ||Oct 12-14 ||Oct 19-21 ||
||Tokyo ||Google || || || || || || ||		 The address is Kungsbron 2, 111 22 Stockholm, Sweden ([[https://goo.gl/maps/GqtRpEZ1R4C2|Google Maps]]).
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Location point of contact: Martin von Zweigbergk (martinvonz), martinvonz@google.com
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If you need a formal invitation for visa purpose, contact the person above.
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=== Arrival Logistics ===
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Location point of contact: (Location not picked yet) Google reception is open from 8:00am to 5:00pm on Friday ([[https://goo.gl/maps/4eKeyhLmD8q|Street view]], [[attachment:google_stockholm_front_door.jpg|picture]]). This is where you can meet a Google employee who will accompany you inside. Access details for Saturday/Sunday will be announced on Friday.
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If you need a formal invitation for visa purpose, contract the person above. === Food etc. ===
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=== People Availability ===
Everyone is welcome from core developer to aspiring contributor. Attending a Mercurial sprint is usually a good way to kickstart your contributions are you'll get a large amount of help available for 3 days.		 Breakfast on Friday will be provided at the Google cafeteria between 8:00am and 9:30am. You will need to be accompanied by a Google employee.
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Please add your name, location preference, and date availability to the table below to express your interest in attending. A location and date is chosen based on people's availability.
||Name ||Coming from ||Need funding ||Asia ||Europe ||Preference ||Sept 14-16 ||Sept 21-23 ||Sept 28-30 ||Oct 5-7 ||Oct 12-14 ||Oct 19-21 ||
||KyleLippincott ||SF Bay Area || {X} || (./) || (./) ||Asia || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) ||
||Martin von Zweigbergk ||SF Bay Area || {X} || (./) || (./) ||Asia || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) ||
||DannyHooper ||SF Bay Area || {X} || || || || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) ||
||Gregory Szorc ||SF Bay Area || {X} || (./) || (./) ||none || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) ||
||RodrigoDamazio ||SF Bay Area || {X} || (./) || (./) ||Asia || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) ||
||Yuya Nishihara ||Japan || (./) || (./) || (./) ||none || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) ||
||Daniel Ploch ||SF Bay Area || {X} || || || || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) ||
||Boris Feld ||Paris || {X} || || || || {X} || {X} || (./) || {X} ||(I would prefer not) || (./) ||
||Alain Leufroy ||Paris || {X} || {X} || (./) || || {X} || {X} || {X} || (./) || (./) || (./) ||
||Paul Morelle ||Brussels, Belgium || {X} || || (./) ||Europe ||(I would prefer not) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) || (./) ||		  * Saturday/Sunday breakfast '''will not''' be provided.
 * Friday/Saturday/Sunday lunch '''will''' be provided.
 * Dinner '''will not''' be provided on any day.
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Wifi is available inside the Google office.
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<!> ''fill me when a location and date have been picked''
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||Name ||Coming from ||Need funding ||Hotel ||In Town Dates ||Notes ||
|| <!> Babar ||Savanna || {X} ||Your hotel name ||13-17 ||(I'm an elephant) ||


 || Name || Coming from || Need funding || Hotel || In town dates ||
||KyleLippincott ||SF Bay Area || {X} || Grand Central by Scandic || Oct 10 - 25 ||
||Martin von Zweigbergk ||SF Bay Area || {X} || Staying with friend || Oct 11 - 14 ||
||DannyHooper ||SF Bay Area || {X} || || Oct 11 - 16 ||
||Gregory Szorc ||SF Bay Area || {X} || Grand Central by Scandic || Oct 10 - ?? ||
||RodrigoDamazio ||SF Bay Area || {X} || Hotel C Stockholm || Oct 11 - 17 ||
||Yuya Nishihara ||Japan || (./) ||Hotel C Stockholm || Oct 11 - 16 ||
||Daniel Ploch ||SF Bay Area || {X} || || ||
||Boris Feld ||Paris || {X} || Best Western Hotel Bentleys || Oct 11 - 14 ||
||Connor Sheehan ||Toronto, Canada|| {X} || Grand Central by Scandic || Oct 12 - 15 ||
||Anton Shestakov ||Irkutsk || (./) || Grand Central by Scandic || Oct 11 - 15 ||
||André Sintzoff ||Marseille, FR || (./) || Comfort Hotel Xpress || Oct 11 - 15 ||
||Sushil Khanchi ||India || (./) ||Hotel C Stockholm || Oct 11 - 15 ||
||Sangeet Kumar Mishra ||India || (./) || Airbnb (Hallman Grata 7)||Oct 10 - 14 ||
||Georges Racinet || Paris || (./) (if possible) || || Oct 11 - 15||
||KatsunoriFujiwara ||Japan || (./) (if possible) || Grand Central by Scandic || Oct 11 - 17 ||
||Nikita Slyusarev ||Moscow || {X} || Scandic Continental || Oct 11 - 15 ||
||Pulkit Goyal ||Moscow || {X} || Scandic Continental || Oct 11 - 15 ||
||AugieFackler ||Pittsburgh, PA || {X} || Grand Central by Scandic || Oct 11 - 15 ||
||Mark Thomas ||London || {X} || Grand Central by Scandic || Oct 11 - 14 ||
||Marcin Kuzminski ||Berlin || {X} || Grand Central by Scandic || Oct 12 - 14 ||
||Sean Farley ||SF Bay Area || (./) || || Oct 11 - 15 ||
||Mads Kiilerich ||Denmark || || || Oct 11 - 15 ||
||Martijn Pieters ||Cambridge, UK || || Best Western || Oct 11 - 14 ||
||Erik van Zijst ||SF Bay Area || {X} || Dialing in remote || ||
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Recent sprints sponsoring budgets were around $10,000. (<!> review this number)
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 * Facebook ($5,000)
 * Google ($5,000)
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Sponsor point of contact: <!> ''Please offer your service'' Sponsor point of contact: Martin von Zweigbergk (martinvonz), martinvonz@google.com ''Please offer your service''
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Having Food delivered for Lunch is usually preferred as it help keeping the timing under control. Dinner is usually taken outside to help people cool off after a day of work. Having Food delivered for Lunch is usually preferred as it helps keep the timing under control. Dinner is usually taken outside to help people cool off after a day of work.
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||Day ||Meal ||Details ||Organiser (when relevant) ||
||Friday ||Lunch || || ||
||Friday ||Diner || || ||		 ||Day ||Meal ||Details ||Organizer (when relevant) ||
||Friday ||Lunch || Cafeteria || Google ||
||Friday ||Dinner || || ||
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||Saturday ||Diner || || || ||Saturday ||Dinner || || ||
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||Sunday ||Diner || || || ||Sunday ||Dinner || || ||
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=== hg undo / hg rewind ===

=== Stable API/ Maintaining extensions like hg-git ===

After every major release, hg-git gets broken and there are user complains about that. We are loosing users because of that fact which is not good. Either we should establish a stable API or we should think about what we can do to make sure hg-git works until we come up with better solution like hgit. Some ideas:

 * We have couple of weeks code freeze, we make sure that all out of tree extensions work with new version of mercurial
 * Add a buildbot to test out of tree extensions with default/stable branch

(added by Pulkit)

=== hg/git ===

(I think Augie?) brought up the idea that "hg could become the best git client out there", which would mean a significant adoption growth for the project. Should this be a priority?

=== Getting a Code of Conduct in place ===

Seeing recent news about Linux development, I checked whether we have a code of conduct or not and I was unable to find one. CoC is very important and having one in place can increase the confidence of new or potential contributors in the community.

(added by Pulkit)

=== Improving UI, UX of partial clones and selective checkout ===

We should discuss about the UI of partial clones, interaction between narrow+shallow(remotefilelog) and also improving the UI of selective checkout i.e. sparse. Maybe we can come up with a single command which handles the tracked files in the repository.

(added by Pulkit)

=== absorb tweaks ===

Absorb is in hgext now. Have people used it? Augie has some proposed UI changes: make the default behavior be to print the `-pn` output and then ask the user if that looks okay.

=== performance tracking ===

We continued our work on performance tracking. It is now simpler to use by individual developers to test their development. Doing a small demo of how it works and an "install party" seems like a good idea.

=== State of Mercurial at Bitbucket ===

I (Erik) would like to give an update on Mercurial usage at Bitbucket, including common workflows and pain points among the general public. Since I unfortunately won't be able to be attend in person, I offer to dial in from SF on Saturday morning (my morning, your afternoon). I imagine 30 minutes or so would be sufficient.

=== Experimentation around test runner ===

I've been experimenting around the test runner and would like to show a demo of my experimentation.

(added by Boris)
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General overview (drop the anti spam part): https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/sprint-hgx.y-NOSPAMREMOVETHATLASTPAST ( <!> update URL) General overview (drop the anti spam part): https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/sprint-hg4.8 ( <!> update URL)
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The table below is an attempt to gather written summary of discussion
||Session theme ||notes/result ||People who know what happen ||		 A copy of the etherpad is available at [[4.8sprint/Notes]].
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I'm sharing 360-degree photos in "[[https://photos.app.goo.gl/cX3ernNbjZEsMeqh9|Mercurial 4.8 Sprint in Stockholm]]" (by foozy)

Note:

This page is primarily intended for developers of Mercurial.

4.8 Sprint

Contents

  1. Date and location
    1. Arrival Logistics
    2. Food etc.
  2. Attendance
  3. Sponsors
  4. Meals
  5. Possible Topics
    1. Topic 1
    2. hg undo / hg rewind
    3. Stable API/ Maintaining extensions like hg-git
    4. hg/git
    5. Getting a Code of Conduct in place
    6. Improving UI, UX of partial clones and selective checkout
    7. absorb tweaks
    8. performance tracking
    9. State of Mercurial at Bitbucket
    10. Experimentation around test runner
  6. Sprint Notes

/!\ Subscribe to this page so you don't miss updates!

1. Date and location

The sprint will be held October 12-14, 2018 at Google Stockholm in Sweden.

The address is Kungsbron 2, 111 22 Stockholm, Sweden (Google Maps).

Location point of contact: Martin von Zweigbergk (martinvonz), martinvonz@google.com

If you need a formal invitation for visa purpose, contact the person above.

1.1. Arrival Logistics

Google reception is open from 8:00am to 5:00pm on Friday (Street view, picture). This is where you can meet a Google employee who will accompany you inside. Access details for Saturday/Sunday will be announced on Friday.

1.2. Food etc.

Breakfast on Friday will be provided at the Google cafeteria between 8:00am and 9:30am. You will need to be accompanied by a Google employee.

  • Saturday/Sunday breakfast will not be provided.

  • Friday/Saturday/Sunday lunch will be provided.

  • Dinner will not be provided on any day.

Wifi is available inside the Google office.

2. Attendance

Everyone is welcome from core developer to aspiring contributor. Attending a Mercurial sprint is usually a good way to kickstart your contributions are you'll get a large amount of help available for 3 days.

Name

Coming from

Need funding

Hotel

In town dates

KyleLippincott

SF Bay Area

{X}

Grand Central by Scandic

Oct 10 - 25

Martin von Zweigbergk

SF Bay Area

{X}

Staying with friend

Oct 11 - 14

DannyHooper

SF Bay Area

{X}

Oct 11 - 16

Gregory Szorc

SF Bay Area

{X}

Grand Central by Scandic

Oct 10 - ??

RodrigoDamazio

SF Bay Area

{X}

Hotel C Stockholm

Oct 11 - 17

Yuya Nishihara

Japan

(./)

Hotel C Stockholm

Oct 11 - 16

Daniel Ploch

SF Bay Area

{X}

Boris Feld

Paris

{X}

Best Western Hotel Bentleys

Oct 11 - 14

Connor Sheehan

Toronto, Canada

{X}

Grand Central by Scandic

Oct 12 - 15

Anton Shestakov

Irkutsk

(./)

Grand Central by Scandic

Oct 11 - 15

André Sintzoff

Marseille, FR

(./)

Comfort Hotel Xpress

Oct 11 - 15

Sushil Khanchi

India

(./)

Hotel C Stockholm

Oct 11 - 15

Sangeet Kumar Mishra

India

(./)

Airbnb (Hallman Grata 7)

Oct 10 - 14

Georges Racinet

Paris

(./) (if possible)

Oct 11 - 15

KatsunoriFujiwara

Japan

(./) (if possible)

Grand Central by Scandic

Oct 11 - 17

Nikita Slyusarev

Moscow

{X}

Scandic Continental

Oct 11 - 15

Pulkit Goyal

Moscow

{X}

Scandic Continental

Oct 11 - 15

AugieFackler

Pittsburgh, PA

{X}

Grand Central by Scandic

Oct 11 - 15

Mark Thomas

London

{X}

Grand Central by Scandic

Oct 11 - 14

Marcin Kuzminski

Berlin

{X}

Grand Central by Scandic

Oct 12 - 14

Sean Farley

SF Bay Area

(./)

Oct 11 - 15

Mads Kiilerich

Denmark

Oct 11 - 15

Martijn Pieters

Cambridge, UK

Best Western

Oct 11 - 14

Erik van Zijst

SF Bay Area

{X}

Dialing in remote

3. Sponsors

We need funds to pay flights and hotel for a few independent contributors.

Sponsoring Company:

  • Facebook ($5,000)
  • Google ($5,000)

  • <!> Please offer your sponsoring

Sponsor point of contact: Martin von Zweigbergk (martinvonz), martinvonz@google.com Please offer your service

4. Meals

Having Food delivered for Lunch is usually preferred as it helps keep the timing under control. Dinner is usually taken outside to help people cool off after a day of work.

(Don't forget vegetarian and vegan option)

Meal point of contact: <!> Please offer your service

Day

Meal

Details

Organizer (when relevant)

Friday

Lunch

Cafeteria

Google

Friday

Dinner

Saturday

Lunch

Saturday

Dinner

Sunday

Lunch

Sunday

Dinner

5. Possible Topics

Important things we want to discuss: (add your own)

5.1. Topic 1

  • <!> sub topic 1.a

  • <!> sub topic 1.b

5.2. hg undo / hg rewind

5.3. Stable API/ Maintaining extensions like hg-git

After every major release, hg-git gets broken and there are user complains about that. We are loosing users because of that fact which is not good. Either we should establish a stable API or we should think about what we can do to make sure hg-git works until we come up with better solution like hgit. Some ideas:

  • We have couple of weeks code freeze, we make sure that all out of tree extensions work with new version of mercurial
  • Add a buildbot to test out of tree extensions with default/stable branch

(added by Pulkit)

5.4. hg/git

(I think Augie?) brought up the idea that "hg could become the best git client out there", which would mean a significant adoption growth for the project. Should this be a priority?

5.5. Getting a Code of Conduct in place

Seeing recent news about Linux development, I checked whether we have a code of conduct or not and I was unable to find one. CoC is very important and having one in place can increase the confidence of new or potential contributors in the community.

(added by Pulkit)

5.6. Improving UI, UX of partial clones and selective checkout

We should discuss about the UI of partial clones, interaction between narrow+shallow(remotefilelog) and also improving the UI of selective checkout i.e. sparse. Maybe we can come up with a single command which handles the tracked files in the repository.

(added by Pulkit)

5.7. absorb tweaks

Absorb is in hgext now. Have people used it? Augie has some proposed UI changes: make the default behavior be to print the -pn output and then ask the user if that looks okay.

5.8. performance tracking

We continued our work on performance tracking. It is now simpler to use by individual developers to test their development. Doing a small demo of how it works and an "install party" seems like a good idea.

5.9. State of Mercurial at Bitbucket

I (Erik) would like to give an update on Mercurial usage at Bitbucket, including common workflows and pain points among the general public. Since I unfortunately won't be able to be attend in person, I offer to dial in from SF on Saturday morning (my morning, your afternoon). I imagine 30 minutes or so would be sufficient.

5.10. Experimentation around test runner

I've been experimenting around the test runner and would like to show a demo of my experimentation.

(added by Boris)

6. Sprint Notes

General overview (drop the anti spam part): https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/sprint-hg4.8 ( <!> update URL)

A copy of the etherpad is available at 4.8sprint/Notes.

I'm sharing 360-degree photos in "Mercurial 4.8 Sprint in Stockholm" (by foozy)

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